New member, new pond

[Casey]

Could you build a filter enclosure on the far side of the pond so you don't see it from the house then clad it in the same stone as the rest of the pond? I don't mean any disrespect at all as I'm sure you know how to handle your other half, if your going to get into trouble when you tell her its a pond then you may as well go the whole hog and have the filter part done now than getting in trouble all over again when you have to change it. If a water level filter really is out of the equation then go for the best pressure filter you can but keep the stock level low, you could increase the bio function of any filter by bagging up some media and just throwing in the pond. I know a couple of people with pressure filters and koi and they do ok but people are looking out for your best interest as it is likely you will have health issues with that type of filter and the stock you wish to keep.

[Delboy]

Hi Bri,

I've got an Eazypod and a Cetus Sieve for sale, if your interested you can PM me, I'd be looking for around the £250 mark for the pod, and £300 for the sieve, both would be second hand to you, but I've had them from new, your welcome to negotiate.

Cheers

[koi-Jay]

An easy pod would suffice very nicely and a simple structure near by the pond would hide it, after all a wheelie bin could fit an easy pod inside it with an external pump, an air pump and sockets for power and probably feed for 6 months too !!
Easy pods will take all your solids and so long as you willing to clean it out every 5 days then you dont need a sieve but if budget allows then get one as they are an amazing addition. It takes 5 minutes to clean an easy pod by the way. In fact 10 seconds to turn the air on and fit the centre tube and close the valves, leave for ten minutes then 30 seconds to - release the dirty water, remove the centre tube and open the valves and turn the air off
mine runs my skimmer and i highly rate them

[cyclonebri1]

OK chaps, getting late, to late for pond talk, just picked up the posts and will be back in a few days, and again

[cyclonebri1]

Could you build a filter enclosure on the far side of the pond so you don't see it from the house then clad it in the same stone as the rest of the pond? I don't mean any disrespect at all as I'm sure you know how to handle your other half, if your going to get into trouble when you tell her its a pond then you may as well go the whole hog and have the filter part done now than getting in trouble all over again when you have to change it. If a water level filter really is out of the equation then go for the best pressure filter you can but keep the stock level low, you could increase the bio function of any filter by bagging up some media and just throwing in the pond. I know a couple of people with pressure filters and koi and they do ok but people are looking out for your best interest as it is likely you will have health issues with that type of filter and the stock you wish to keep.

The other half gag is a bit of a joke to be honest Casey, she knows I'm intending a pond. But there is an issue, and that is that I can show not only to her, but the whole family (most importantly me), that I can make the pool 100% child proof. This is why it's a raised pond, that reduces accessibility by a good few %.

The flat top means I can cover in 3 x 3 or 4 x 4 inch 6 guage s/s weldmesh, even my 15 stones wouldn't fall through that

But again, any gravity filter would need to be mounted about 6 feet above where the bottom exit appears in the photo, can't see how that would ever be possible.

I do have a further question tho, and this is likely to throw me in to the hands of all those who advise against the use of a pressure filter;

Has anyone here used one? and if unsuccessfull why??

All this is none time critical, pond buiilt, waiting for spring.

PS Please excuse ant sp/grammar, xmas day late and slightly pied

[huso huso]

Has anyone here used one? and if unsuccessfull why??

over the years i have seen many ponds with canister filters used with varying results .the main problem seems to arise over wildly exagerated claims from the manufacturer as to thier capacity followed secondly by over enthusiastic marketing from shops .if you look closely at the specifications of canister filter you will note the model no ie 11000 refers to the max voliume of water it can effectively handle under ideal conditions with minimal or no fish stock .asyou increase the fish stock you will note the suggested volume decreases rapidly to only a few thou litres and less if koi or in full sun so a 11000 model with fish stock may service 7000 litres in full sun may go down to 5000 litres and with koi down to 3000 litres .also they are not self cleaning and even the models with plunging cleaners and other devices still need a strip to service correctly .pump size has to be quite specific too little flow and flow will be too slow for pond too much flow and filtermedia which is often foams will crush in and become bypassed..many canisters are very small and offer limited bio and mechanical filtration and some are of such poor quality the canisters and operating levers /knobs break in use.they also provide limited uv power and the uv chambers are often too small to effectively function .they can be expensive especially those that use cleaning devises and call them pressure filters when in fact very little pressure is needed to blow them apart .so if you intend to use a canister filter go for the largest size available and dont try keeping koi with them and forget sturgeon all together .

[cyclonebri1]

Hi, thanks, at last a reason for not going that route. I'm going to hang around a while as I'm sure I've made it clear that the filter issue isn't exactly urgent, just making my brain ache, the choice comes later on when the pond is finally coated/completed.

Still can't see any other option though that won't need to sit 6 feet up on stilts, or am I missing something, the outlet of any filter will need to be at or above the level of the waterfall won't it?, and that puts the top of the filter probably 6 feet or more min off the deck.

[huso huso]

if your feeding your filter from the bottom drain then the top of the filter will only be approx 2 inches above the water level in the pond as you pump the water from the filter back to the pond .

[koi-Jay]

An easy pod would sit against that lovely brickwork and being pump fed back into the pond all you would see is the easy pod lid and the inch and half black pipe bringing the water back in from the filter.

[cyclonebri1]

if your feeding your filter from the bottom drain then the top of the filter will only be approx 2 inches above the water level in the pond as you pump the water from the filter back to the pond .

You have just confirmed or even questioned, a question I was mulling over, ie, the filter inlet can be gravity fed from the bottom drain and will be 2" LOWER?? than the water level, otherwise ther will be no circuit??